The Warrior's Sword & Shield



What happened to the Warrior's sword and shield?  Unlocking the new cool looking weapons was always one of the highlights for my warrior students.  Now it seems all the warriors have various types of glowing punch-fists, and their shields have a translucent look to them.

Personally, I don't like the graphics change at all.  Please change it back.

Additionally, if this is some sort of move away from weapons due to sensitivities that can come in school cultures, lets keep in mind that this is a fantasy setting.  Warriors are their group's protectors, and they need powerful weapons and shields (that aren't see-through) to fulfill that role.  Is someone thinking that having cool swords in Classcraft is encouraging students to bring swords to school to have sword fights, or thinking stabbing each other is cool?  I say no way.  Along those lines, how is a glowing power-fist any different.  Won't those encourage students to be power-punching each other?

If this is somehow supposed to be an improvement for Warriors, then it's a step in the wrong direction.  Warriors aren't magic-punching battle-mages;  they're warriors, and they're equipment should reflect that.

The graphics change on the logo was also a step downhill.  The old logo ways way better looking.


I just added a comment under game feedback how they "New Coked" the product.

I fully support and agree with you guys, it is a terrible change. They either need to make it optional, or keep the energy shield and allow weapons or if weapons are unacceptable, then at least just leave a solid no energy shield, looks more like magic than a warrior, but I doubt classcraft will listen to us regardless of how many people comment on this post, they don't really listen to our requests so much.

Classcraft, You've satiated the educator community for the time being by saying,

Please know that we are taking your opinions to heart. There are plenty of discussions taking place around this issue. Your comments are being heard. Classcraft's Official Facebook

Now, it just remains to be seen whether or not you'll actually do anything about or whether you'll dig your heels in and plug your ears until, as Scott Beiter said a developer somewhere, looking at making another fantasy gamification platform develops something with "features that this Platform doesn't such as different weapons to equip and highly customizable boss battles and avatars... Teachers will quickly jump platforms". 

Also, Jeff Battle, this!!! That was a brilliant summary of how I think we're all feeling.

I’m just here to join the sadness about lack of weapons for the warrior class. The scout doesn’t even make sense anymore? No bow and arrows?

The entire engagement of this system is how it ties into students loving actual video games. No middle school student is playing a Fantasy RPG video game without swords, bows and other medieval weapons. It definitely should be an option. I can’t think of a single parent , admin. or colleague who was ever offended. The coolest class was the warrior!

I feel like the large majority of Game Masters are big time gamers themselves. I don’t really believe this was a feedback from consumers debate that was commented in the blog. “It was a heated debate from both sides”. I have to believe that the large majority of educators buying into this game love fantasy and gaming.

I just wish for more options with premium. Instead you take out cool features, and add features that don’t drive motivation in the class as much. Cool weapons gear =motivates students. Cool storylines = supplementary and I already have my own quest lines that need changing based on these changes. SMH...

So now I am to understand you are even removing the shield, changing the name of Warriors to Guardians, changing any pictures of powers including swords. All this time spent on this and not the myriad of things I have seen teachers requesting.

So no time being spent on new features, adding new team crests, adding Game Master avatars, (maybe even updating healers since I my kids complain their costumes are meh), allowing more power customisation, allow random event customisation: like choosing if random events are challenge that can be won or lost, adding new types of creatures for boss battles, etc. Nope all of that ignored, rather you are going to redesign all the warriors (again) just to removes swords and now shields. That is why none of the other features you promised your develops would look at will ever happen, just re-designing all the warriors again!

So, here we are. It's nearly February. There has been no movement to bring back warrior weapons, even as an option. Meanwhile, a whole new level of hurdles has been added to setting one's class up. My 8th graders no longer are interested. They're frustrated with the changes. I tried to set up my new Seventh Grade Classes and distribute class codes last week, and couldn't get to that screen without clicking through EVERY SINGLE SET UP option, despite having carried it all over from a previous class (none of which were the ability to give warriors weapons btw). This is where development and design dollars are being spent... Not on what we want. Pretty sure they don't care. 

I am slowly feeling my love of Classcraft go the way of the Warrior's weapons.

We have asked for new features and we get no traction. Where is the option for me to include these weapons or not? I teach high school juniors and seniors and they prefer those looks.

Classcraft, you're deathly silent on this. Please don't give in to all of this "PC" behavior.

We are constantly held in the dark and then bam! We get Kudos. My students have YET to submit a single kudos. My kids are veteran Classcraft participants as most are with me for the second time. I realize the fear of something new and I won't fully comprehend it until I actually see one in action.

Why is it we get one new feature like this and then.... nothing. I realize there is a lot of back-end maintenance that a non-programmer like myself doesn't fully comprehend that constantly needs updating, fixing and preventing from breaking.

I... I... I just don't have the words. I don't know that I can continue on anymore. The fire is gone; the passion lost. From swords to plowshares.

This brings up a interesting debate on content/context in the face of modern societal trends.

I can completely understand the need for remaining sensitive to the social/emotional lives of students (especially younger ones), but as stated in one of the MANY responses to the original post, context is important to consider. Classcraft is a FANTASY based program, and in such a world weapons are part of its identity. 

Just because swords are weapons you don’t adapt the story to say King Arthur was given a foam pool noodle by the Lady of the Lake.

You don’t teach that all World Wars were fought only with naughty language.

I will openly admit that I have a set of Laser pistols in my desk at school that I use for Random Event’s, and the odd Nerf gun or two, but i do not use them to actively/passively promote the use of weapons. Even the language of “Boss BATTLE” could be construed as violent or negative . . . But in the context of the game that’s what it is: a conflict against a opponent using acquired skill. 

if Classcraft was Instead a Grand Theft Auto style game (Grand Class Auto) where students gained XP by running over the avatars of their classmates. . . THEN we’d have a real issue. But it’s not that way. Classcraft has even stated that student head-to-head battles (boss battle style) will never be a thing. I do think it would add an interesting dynamic to the game, but I support their decision. Staying with boss battles, every time a student or team takes damage, there is the scratch animation. I have never had a student say it felt too scary or violent,  it rather that it ADDED to the fun tension of the activity,

The weapons in Classcraft are not meant to be representations of violence, but artefacts of the type of world it is trying to build, And clearly, it is the efforts in world building that have made the platform so popular with students and educators.

I will ALWAYS support any action taken towards building and promoting a more tolerant and understanding society, and not glorifying violence or weapon-culture. But as always it is important to consider the context, and be critical of our own intentions and decisions before we act.

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